Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/07/2002 09:51 AM Senate FIN

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     SENATE CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 162(STA)                                                                                      
     "An Act relating to absences from the state under the                                                                      
     longevity bonus program."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JASON  HOOLEY, Staff  of  Representative  Fred Dyson,  informed  the                                                            
Committee  that this legislation  would extend  a longevity  program                                                            
participant's allowable  absence from the State from the current 30-                                                            
consecutive  days to 60 consecutive  days, in addition to  extending                                                            
the allowable  unpaid sabbatical term  from 90 days to three  years.                                                            
He stated that  the extension of these two program  components would                                                            
lower the overall cost of the longevity program to the State.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALISON ELGEE,  Deputy Commissioner,  Department  of Administration,                                                             
stated  that  the   Department's  fiscal  note  addresses   the  two                                                            
extensions  separately.  She  explained  that  extending   allowable                                                            
absences from  30 days to 60 days would cost the program  additional                                                            
money; however,  extending the allowable  unpaid sabbatical  term to                                                            
three  years  would  save money.  She  stated  that  the  three-year                                                            
sabbatical   would  be   applicable  to   such  eligible   longevity                                                            
participants  as those  who move  to Arizona  and realize  it was  a                                                            
"mistake"  and move back,  or those participants  who wish  to spend                                                            
extended time  with family out of  State. She stated this  provision                                                            
would allow  those individuals  to  return to the  State and  resume                                                            
their  residency   without   jeopardizing   their  longevity   bonus                                                            
eligibility.  She stated that the  three-year deadline provides  the                                                            
Department with a "necessary end-point."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee  stated the  Department  projects that  if ten percent  of                                                            
current  longevity  bonus  participants  were out  of  the State  an                                                            
additional  month, as  would be  allowed under  the extended  unpaid                                                            
sabbatical  plan, the  State would  save up to  $435,000. She  noted                                                            
significant  interest has been expressed  favoring this legislation                                                             
and she  predicted  that participants  would take  advantage of  the                                                            
extensions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked for  clarification that,  "people do  not get                                                            
paid if they are out of State for any given month."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee responded that  currently, individuals would not receive a                                                            
monthly longevity check  if they were out of the State for more than                                                            
30 days.  She stated  that this  bill would  increase the  allowable                                                            
absence time from 30 days to 60 days.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley   summarized  that  if  this  legislation   becomes                                                            
effective,  a participant  who is out  of the  State for two  months                                                            
would receive  benefits for those two months, but  would not receive                                                            
benefits during  any time spent out of the State beyond  two months.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee agreed  and clarified that their eligibility  status would                                                            
be suspended after the initial 60 days.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked how long a person could be  absent from the                                                            
State without losing their eligibility status.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee responded  that  a person  is  currently  allowed "to  be                                                            
consecutively  absent for  up to 90  days at which  point you  would                                                            
need to  return to the State  for a least  ten days" to retain  your                                                            
eligibility.   She  continued  that   another  90  consecutive   day                                                            
absenteeism  period could  occur; however,  there is an absenteeism                                                             
limit of  180 days in a  12-month period.  She explained that  other                                                            
allowable absences  could occur as  a result of an approved  medical                                                            
leave or sabbatical  leave which would  allow a person to  be absent                                                            
from the State for up to a year within a given five-year period.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked whether there are any other exemptions.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee voiced  there are not; however,  she would verify  this as                                                            
the exemptions  are identified  in State  regulations.  She  stated,                                                            
"that medical absences are the most common."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  affirmed  that  the  sabbatical  component  of  this                                                            
legislation  provides significant  savings  for the longevity  bonus                                                            
program;  however,  she mentioned  that  as the  longevity  "program                                                            
begins to  wane," the overall  expenses of  the program lessen.  She                                                            
referred  the Committee to  the saving projections  detailed  in the                                                            
Department's fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked the testifier the amount of  the current total                                                            
program "payout."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee responded that  this year's program expenses amount to $50                                                            
million;  however, expenses  are being  reduced $3  to $4 million  a                                                            
year as the number of eligible participants decrease.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman asked  whether the Department  would be  tracking                                                            
the  two  components  of  this bill,  if  enacted,  to  ensure  that                                                            
projected savings are occurring.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee responded that  the Department tracks absences, therefore,                                                            
this information would be available.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked if the Department of Administration  supports                                                            
this legislation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee  replied that  the  Department  has  not taken  a  formal                                                            
position on the legislation;  however, she noted that the Department                                                            
"does  not oppose  it." She  mentioned  that all  current  longevity                                                            
bonus  recipients are  over 70  years old,  so "we  think that  as a                                                            
policy call,  if the Legislature chooses  to pass this legislation,                                                             
we think it's fine."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  offered a motion to move "House Bill  162, Version L,                                                            
from  Committee with  individual  recommendations  and accompanying                                                             
fiscal notes."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
There being  no objections,  SCS for HB 162(STA)  was REPORTED  from                                                            
Committee with a new Department  of Administration fiscal note dated                                                            
April 24, 2002 with a net savings of $146,700.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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